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In this episode I sat down with bestselling author, TED speaker, and acclaimed psychologist, Dr. Meg Jay. I had been looking forward to this conversation for years, and it did not disappoint. In this episode we explore Meg's wisdom and insights related to her recent book, Supernormal - The Untold Story of Adversity and Resilience, including:

  • How we can build resilience

  • How love can transform the effects of adversity and trauma (and the science behind it)

  • The relationship between courage, empathy, and deep listening

  • How to support friends, colleagues, and loved ones in the face of adversity

  • How to challenge the stories we tell ourselves and how learning this skill leads to resilience

  • Why the past does not define the future

  • And much more!

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Meg Jay’s Background

Meg Jay is a clinical psychologist and a narrative nonfiction writer. In her books, she weaves the latest research with what she hears everyday: the behind-closed-doors stories of real people.

In Supernormal, Dr. Jay reveals the secret world of the family hero: those who soar to unexpected heights after childhood adversity. In The Defining Decade, Dr. Jay elevates what it means to be a twentysomething. She argues that, rather than a developmental downtime, the twenties are a developmental sweetspot: a time when the things we do—and the things we don’t do—will have an enormous impact across years and even generations to come. The Defining Decade has been published in more than a dozen countries. Her related TED talk — “Why 30 Is Not the New 20” — has been viewed more than 10 million times.

Her work has appeared in numerous media outlets including the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, O Magazine, and on the BBC, NPR and TED. For more about Meg please visit